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To Ratzinger Group Jan21/2011

Posted by Holder of the Secrets on January 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM

Hi everyone!  Again thanks for the interesting discussion inthe Ratzinger group today. For those who were there I wanted to clarify someideas that I'm not sure got across fully. 1. The reason why the only way to getto the kingdom is through Jesus. 2. To answer Alexandra's question about whichGod to choose in a pluralist society.<<>  3. Why have/need reason if it categorizes, separates anddisseminates, more often than unites.


 

 1. The reason why the only way to get to the kingdom is through Jesus isbecause he is the mediator. He is the Grand Transducer (my term;) between theseen and the unseen or the material and spiritual worlds. When Jesus (Yeshua)said "Come follow me" (in my opinion) was to point to the particularway of life and contemplation that Jesus set out for us to follow (not literallyfollowing behind) it is his PATH that must be followed hence "I am theway". People have the free will to choose to follow this narrow and lessfrequented path or not. When you die, it is Jesus that will judge whether ornot you did a good job attempting to follow the path he has set out. He is theJudge or Anubis who "weighs your soul against the feather" so tospeak. THIS is why the only way to the kingdom is through him, he decides whois worthy. He is obviously worthy himself because he wasnot corrupted and hence became a part of the Trinity, therefore trusted todo this task (because he too was found worthy by God).


 

2. It is a very good and important question to ask, which God to we pray to orwhich God's laws do we accept in a pluralist society. This points to theproblem of objective moral principles or truths. But, IS there any objectivemoral principles or truths? There is universal consent that survival isobjectively universal principle, but that has what's led to the rampant greedwe see in society because it leads to stepping over people and using them tothe means to their end. Not cool. If we believe that there is truth out thereand certain things can be "proven" in several different ways usingseveral different methods, then the end of the means of this adventure on awhole leads to One big-ass universal Truth. Some say this is God, some say aunified field theory etc. But, I like what David said about Plato? that thegreatest truth is Love. Love happens to be the greatest living principle innatewithin us (or the most honourable and respected) and happens to be the messageJesus gave - "love one another" He also said his God was the God ofLove. Truth and love seem to be interchangeable here and could be why Jesusalso said he was the truth. So to answer the question, the God of Love shouldbe the God (or lets say principle because that includes those who are seculartoo), that should be regarded as "best" thus to be followed. 

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3. Reason is a funny thing because it is the newest addition to the animalkingdom's brain. Emotion and instinct are quite established and are used inchildhood to understand the world as their senses begin to give theminformation on how the world works and looks like then reason or reflectioncomes in (I am preparing for Essay 2 in the Empiricist class here lol).Cognition, or reason has instinct too and the principle it runs on is tocategorize and find patterns, otherwise we would live in world of chaos.Reason does this because it is "in its nature” and here lies the problem,it is corruptible. It was, after all, what the scorpion said to the turtle asit killed him anyway, even though the turtle was helping him out (or showinglove/compassion). Reason is corruptible because people tend use only half ofits principle and revere one over the other by using reason more often forcategorization, than for finding patterns (uniting). So, to answer the questionof why we need reason as well as faith (which i operationalize as a result ofour emotional capacities) is because reason helps us understand and interactwith the material world and emotional capacities help us understand thespiritual world. Since it is truth that unifies, in order to find the truththrough reason would be to find patterns that assimilate. (The mind then accommodatesand so on). Everything is a reciprocal balance. Why say accommodation is BETTERthan assimilation? It’s absurd. It would be like saying breathing out is wayBETTER than breathing in: Although there is reciprocity between the two, theystill battle over which is superior. Our western civilization believes reasonto be superior to faith. This is like saying the newborn or teenager is betterthan the adult (see the brain anatomy point at beginning). Perhaps sometimesit's true. But, reason is corruptible and its pal, the material world issusceptible to decay. While we are on this planet, there should be a balancedreciprocity between the two and to abandon reason while alive is flawed becausereason aids in the understanding of faith/emotion. (When we die we can abandonreason as it will be no longer useful). But, to abandon emotion, spiritualityand faith while still on the earth is more than just flawed it would be as ifone were already dead. This is far from beinganswered – sorry!

Woah! I wasn't expecting this answer to beso convoluted and there are probably flaws in my logic (no pun intended). But,feel free to start a debate about this!! Good to see you all today - sorry Ican't make it tomorrow, perhaps next time!  

 


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Reply Holder of the Secrets
11:52 PM on January 31, 2011 
lol * for some reason when you copy and paste it onto the website from "word" it joins two words/worlds together. My favourite so far is "to getto the kingdom..."
Reply Jesus Himself
8:54 AM on May 16, 2011 
Nonsense !
Read the QURAN !!!
Reply Holder of the Secrets
5:02 PM on May 17, 2011 
There is not enough information in your comment to determine whether or not it is nonsense. What in particular should I read in the Quran?
Reply Talis
11:17 PM on February 8, 2016 
The parts with reference to Zion ..by any name... meanwhile, how strung emotion corrupts:

i agree .. end result of 1. 2 .3. compilation is Nonsense .. brainwash is brainwash by any color
that is the effective message conveyed .. tho to indulge myself , a venture to explain reason :

Ancient secrets, delivered to mankind (viewers , communicators to Angelics , power crystals or element 115 .. if one has an open mind to Bob Lazar) may justify close relation between War and Church wanting to retrieve such secrets .. Ancient Egypt used a system tested across thousands of years : Slavery.. Rome inherited & took it to the next level : Modern Religion

How does an intelligent person think : J as "the way" for low caste sexually depraved, Sod & Gomorrah mixed race, living a total indulgence.. no respect for instruction, self obsessed .. so much of the world today ..

How does an intelligent not conclude a Roman monopoly on the authority to God .. Rome was the "glorious" center of the world .. it was a simple matter to convince the Emperors (it took 70 years at the fall of Jerusalem, to strike a deal with Titus) a "savior" fashioned from public FEAR .. used as a controlling force on weaker humanity ..Ottoman Empire not fooled.. & continued to take by force in isolated invasions of the continent, easily for thousands of years right until 1900 .. secret glass makers bartered with Venice for lost slaves

we realize disciples were illiterate people, only scribes of Law/ Church were given2 written language .. this is where the deception was hatched 40 years after J death .. Today cars disappear / trains disappear .. was illusion hard to fabricate to illiterate people 2000 years ago. Hook line and sinker, presto a daytime usefulidiot production line, soldiers for a new cause, kingdoms then protestant revolution, communism & finally parliament

That Grand Plan unfolds plain as daylight, on stage today ..an u categorize useless factors into communist theory .. Unification is a program that is the insoluble secret u hold, (comfortably trapped in)

J look at the babble... lost in fractals , stuck in circles ... exactly as we wish.
What u going to do about it .. Persian Turok Iran .. early holders of secrets
.. perhaps next time ... the only string that made sense .. a polite unapologetic apology
Reply Sophia G.
8:37 AM on May 20, 2016 
I was given universal truth on Jan 2, 2014. On an airplane after it had ascended through a massive blizzard on the east coast. I have since been unwrapping each as they are to be seen like pieces of candy. I have no lies in my heart and what I know I want to share. I'm here to bring greatness to the new world (NOT the NWO, please no confusion) apres the happening. I'm bloodline to Christ and we have seen him come again and again as he travels through space as we 5 do .... i am here to give the greatness to the new world and they will find the truth in this our 4th experiment to come. I have never needed to read the Bible though I attended parochial school and was supposed to read it 4 times. It's the story of my knowledge of Yeshua, our lives and to collapse what falsen claims about Yeshua Ben Yoseph have painted over 2090 years. This is the dawn of modern sensationalism, and the embellishing has created total duality when the truth is the perception of 2 is luckier and we are all total oneness. I am true, honest, born of SumerIan god and my inception on material planet 3 is one dating to Mesopotamia where I & 4 othwrs brought god to creature and managed to keep the blood mark of God to this now my 27 journey of spirit through man. Is there question I can share and must and have tried to evade but.my ancestors have been firm I'm here to facilitate the new world greatness. I'll write the book in the American desert, with a solar and have begun fundamental principles or old testament .... I will never see its release in this inception of myself in man nor will my child but it will be 4 generations then the ashes of great atrocities will blow away. Divinity and enlightenment won't take long as the portion of beast left will become the discoverers of the new book to lead the people onto their chosen world and the rest to the plateau of new enlightenment. Your understanding and not responding in judgement is beautiful. I'm not here to explain who I am to the world of so many who judge the most those closest to them...let alone by the words of strangers who are first in hearing what the world will become through the message I'm only chosen to facilitate. We are all one and there was no secret in celestial analog the 3 leaders of all who wish to be led ARe all led by the same essence of one spirit of the 5. It is all the teaching of one and the one is all of us 5 and he's come in multiple times to teach and is received well, or murdered. But it's chemistry of biological enzymes clashing with energy of spirit knowledge which makes his platform frightening to those who decided to take him out thus making him martyr. Are there questions for I am here to guide the people and have no motivation and no agenda other than to calm fear for those who seek me and find me. I assure you I have the mark of my galactic family and my blood group conveys this... I'm here bc i enjoy quantum mechanics, read and wiki sent me directly to you. I'm a lovely mother who is divine but can't help to say the word fuk a lot....I have no agenda but what I have to tell is from the account of Thomas the apostle who was never doubtful as he and the child's grew together ... it was Thomas reeling and unable to help his brother when the tribute began. Thomas of Aquainas whose story I'll convey as he and I made one as Yeshua wished and I bore sons and daughters of both. Peace for you on this day. I visited the divine palace through kundalinI and had to return against my wish but I will earn my place after the 4th year of me on this earth. In time to slup out of next holocaust. ..I still bear wounds from the last... never accept the .... eastearn philosophic and became Muslim became Christian and trinity will again return to one and then the gas from Saturn like planet will fall from the atmosphere and sleep the physical and free their graduated energies to higher strains of the silky floss we coast along . I've stood with foot here and foot 4th and communicated effectively in both as well as brought a female with me....are there any questions and on that I'll dismiss myself to
Reply Holder of the Secrets
8:57 PM on May 30, 2016 
I am not sure where to start with the questions. What do you mean, "brought god to creature?"

What Saturn-like planet are you referring to? Are you talking about planet X or Niburu?

You say you are the bloodline of Christ, how is this to be proven? Have you been reading Baigent and Leigh?
You also say you were born of a Sumerian god, which one?
How can you be both born of a Sumerian god and be of the bloodline of Christ?
Just a little confused.
What is this message you are chosen to facilitate?
Reply Talis
10:01 PM on June 4, 2019 
May we use the faculty provided us in the energy of the brain? It is sadly misused, for selfish purpose, as we are a NEW composite, refreshed each day, in hope of learning what NOT to do.. How not to repeat the same mechanical mistakes. Alas, that is objective infinitum. WE as god sponsored monkeys, struggle with identity. Stumble about proving each worth, or simply stealing from the temple.. EARTH is the Temple. What does Rockefella do ? Rape & pillage for profit. Showing no signs of thanks.. it takes death (gravity as pointed out) to drag the skin into a bagged up mess.. so in monkey despair , the creature invests in laboratory techniques to keep calm. Science is a marvellous exploit, like a gun, .. can be expressed variously. Our personal Temple is also desecrated daily. The Mind , our consciousness is expressed variously, mostly Selfishly as that's the survival drive.. May I compare a religious leader bent on conversion ? This is a selfish purpose, that glorifies a competing challenge .. how many can I save. There is a further purpose, beyond a bent knee in humble service.. that prospers an organic shelter (religion) from the storm (nature) IT is nature, that relentlessly destroys all present, by dis-ease, simple old age, or malnutrition. That state is hardly celebrated, only when vigour presents may glory be seen. May light be cast on abstract notions (emotions) humans cling to ? What is the basis of love .. when redistilled, is not the fundamental Joy an essence ? Is there love without Joy ? How to measure Good?
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